CrossFit East Bay Rest Day 090223: Yelp Is A Scam

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I was informed of the below article by several CFEB members. I can confirm that Yelp has been incredibly aggressive in trying to get me to advertise, and has removed six five-star reviews of CFEB after I declined to advertise. In addition Yelp's sales reps are pushy, obnoxious and ill informed. S.M. at Yelp recently  informed me (after I told Yelp for the 5th time I was not interested) that he worked with "a few different Cross Fit locations". I replied:

"If you really worked with CrossFit "locations" you would know that it is "CrossFit", not "Cross Fit" (sic) and that they are "affiliates" not "locations".

I have been onYelp for some time and I have never gotten even one nibble from it. I have my own website which generates lots of business".

Subsequently S., or someone at Yelp, removed six five-star reviews. I will no longer rely on Yelp for assistance in evaluating businesses, and, in addition, I am exploring the possibility of legal action against them. Certainly if a class-action lawsuit is initiated I will participate.

Check the comments page too.

Lots of one-star reviews of Yelp on Yelp. The irony!


Yelp and the Business of Extortion 2.0

Local business owners say Yelp offers to hide negative customer reviews of their businesses on its web site ... for a price.




February 18, 2009














The phone calls came almost daily. It started to get creepy.

"Hi, this is Mike from Yelp," the voice would say. "You've had three hundred visitors to your site this month. You've had a really good response. But you have a few bad ones at the top. I could do something about those."

This wasn't your average sales pitch. At least, not the kind that John, an East Bay restaurateur, was used to. He was familiar with Yelp.com, the popular San Francisco-based web site in which any person can write a review about nearly any business. John's restaurant has more than one hundred reviews, and averages a healthy 3.5-star rating. But when John asked Mike what he could do about his bad reviews, he recalls the sales rep responding: "We can move them. Well, for $299 a month." John couldn't believe what the guy was offering. It seemed wrong.

In fact, something seemed shady about the state of his restaurant's negative reviews. "When you do get a call from Yelp, and you go to the site, it looks like they have been moved," John said. "You don't know if they happen to be at the top legitimately or if the rep moved them to the top. You don't even know if this is someone who legitimately doesn't like your restaurant. ... Almost all the time when they call you, the bad ones will be at the top."

Usually, John said, he would politely decline to advertise. "Well, thanks," he'd say. "I'll talk to my partner about it." Or, "It's not really in my budget right now." But inevitably, in another week or so, he'd get another phone call. Occasionally, the voice on the other end of the phone would change, but the calls continued. These days, John chooses to not answer his phone when it's from a number with a 415 area code.

John may sound paranoid, but he's got company. During interviews with dozens of business owners over a span of several months, six people told this newspaper that Yelp sales representatives promised to move or remove negative reviews if their business would advertise.


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Yelp and the Business of Extortion 2.0

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Whose comments were removed?

I'm not entirely sure: maybe those folks who wrote reviews could look and see if the comments are still there:

Note; another dirty Yelp trick is that if you are logged in you will still see your comments, but no one else will, so you have to log off to know if your comments have been deleted.

check out the rash of recent one-star reviews of Yelp on Yelp: I wonder how long these will stay up?!

Mine is absent.
Maybe this is something to bring to message board and make the CF community aware, Perhaps others are being strong armed into advertising.
See if the pattern is there.

Good idea Frank, I think yours was the second review written.

My review was also removed. And yet, when I logged in, there it was!

Matthew here, My review was removed as well, but is visible when I'm logged in.

I had not heard anything of this. Yelp has been good to me; it is really disappointing to hear of these business practices. Which gym is social climbing happening at?

Social climbing is at Iron Works tonight. See you there!

I too was very disturbed by this article. Shady! I have always loved Yelp, but dishonest business practices certainly defeat the whole point of the site. My review is still up, but I was a fairly frequent Yelper for awhile, so that may make them more reluctant to delete my reviews.

Max, thanks for posting this. I had no idea it was such a scam, but something seemed fishy. I have eight yelp reviews total, including seven 5-star reviews and one 4-star review for my chiro office, and somehow it always ends up buried on the 4th or 5th page of results, even when you search on "chiropractor" in "El Cerrito" - behind offices in SF and all over the east bay that have one or two reviews, or a mix of positive and negative reviews - heck, even behind offices that are no longer in existence!

I have not been contacted by anyone from yelp yet, but if they do try to extort $$ from me I'll definitely keep you posted.

They are actively doing the same thing in Detroit right now. It is absolutely ridiculous.

I am fed up with yelp, and will join with anyone wanting to file a class action lawsuit. I had 7 five star reviews, but suddenly 4 disappeared. After getting 3 different answers from Yelp as to why this happened, I stuck them with a one star review. They have pissed me off since my competition who does not pay for Yelps ineffective advertising package, has 30+ reviews. My business is no different. I hope Yelp goes down and suffers financially. They need to be put out of business for once and for all. Period.

There is obviously a lot to learn. There are some good points here.

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online stock trading on CrossFit East Bay Rest Day 090223: Yelp Is A Scam: There is obviously a lot to learn. There are some good points here.
Lisa on CrossFit East Bay Rest Day 090223: Yelp Is A Scam: I am fed up with yelp, and will join with anyone wanting to file a class action
Gina on CrossFit East Bay Rest Day 090223: Yelp Is A Scam: They are actively doing the same thing in Detroit right now. It is absolutely r
Allen on CrossFit East Bay Rest Day 090223: Yelp Is A Scam: Max, thanks for posting this. I had no idea it was such a scam, but something se
Maeve on CrossFit East Bay Rest Day 090223: Yelp Is A Scam: I too was very disturbed by this article. Shady! I have always loved Yelp, but d
Rebecca Ralls on CrossFit East Bay Rest Day 090223: Yelp Is A Scam: Social climbing is at Iron Works tonight. See you there!
Gita on CrossFit East Bay Rest Day 090223: Yelp Is A Scam: I had not heard anything of this. Yelp has been good to me; it is really disapp
Bill on CrossFit East Bay Rest Day 090223: Yelp Is A Scam: Matthew here, My review was removed as well, but is visible when I'm logged in.
Daniel on CrossFit East Bay Rest Day 090223: Yelp Is A Scam: My review was also removed. And yet, when I logged in, there it was!
Maximus on CrossFit East Bay Rest Day 090223: Yelp Is A Scam: Good idea Frank, I think yours was the second review written.